Ambition is the last refuge of failure.
Brother... Army... AH!
Published on December 12, 2005 By Silver_and_Jade_Tears In Blogging
My brother has decided that he is going to join the Army. My brother is 17, hates authority, and doesn't have a clue to what real-life is like. What 17-year-old does? He spends his days playing computer games that supposedly imitate real-life battles, but despite the gore, there is no reality in them because he is safe in a chair, not out where it's really life or death.

While I appreciate our troops, I am scared to death for my brother. Though I know it's selfish of me, I am glad that he has to have both parents signatures to sign up for the reserves. My dad is with-holding because he, I am sure, is just as scared as I am.

I also have a huge distrust of the Army recruiter that has been working with my brother. Among other things, this man has basically told my brother that it doesn't matter what my parents think, my brother can do what he wants, and that he should gain my dad's signature at any cost. (What a message to get someone into a group that insists on obediance...)

This man has also promised that my brother will get school funding, and a ton of other things, but then I hear about how the Army rarely keeps those promises. I wish my brother would do more research before he gets all rared up to go on an adventure (which is the reason that he's wants to go.)

Despite my fear, and hesitance, I am proud of my brother for wanting to go into the Army. He essentially wants to go into the Special Forces, and though I know that's even more dangerous, I am glad that he does have ambitions that aren't against the government, as he has previously considered.

I also hope that if my brother does join, whether it be now, or when he graduates, that basic training, and whatever else trainees go through, will make him grow up, and become more respectful of those around him.

Mr Army Recruiter:

If you lie to my brother, and he ends up dead because he believes your lies, I wish all sort of pain and suffering beyond what you can imagine onto you!


I'm really scared, and now I know an inkling of what Dharma and Texas feel... just a tad bit of an inkling.

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on Dec 13, 2005
Hey I joined with a GED!
Oh, that's right, they made me Infantry when I was in the Marines.....Hmmm, perhaps a little cause and effect there?
It isn't for everyone but with the right attitude it can be a great learning and even maturing experience. (But not all will mature )
on Dec 13, 2005
Hey I joined with a GED!


I wasn't aware, and I didn't mean to disparage those who do. Many of them want to make the best of themselves, and overcome the stigma (and the outright discrimination, as well. If they aren't allowed in certain fields, that's discrimination, it's just based on an arbitrary measure of "intelligence," a measure in this case which is completely bogus).

It's just not the easier way, in this case.

Maybe they're trying to talk Tears' brother into the "Basic as Senior Trip" method, with the AIT and other service after graduation?
on Dec 14, 2005
Hmmm, good to know, SSG Geezer, last I knew you had to be at least an E4 to volunteer. Things change I guess... I also remember when you had to be an E5 AND Airborne qualified before the SF recruiters woud even talk to you.
on Dec 14, 2005
Airborne qualified before the SF recruiters woud even talk to you.


I think you're right. Sometime ago being Airborne qualified was a min standard for both SF and Seal school consideration. Mark my word, times be a changing fast in favor of expanding SOG teams. Watch the general army shrink into more support operations. I just hope agencies operating offshore add more highly trained bops non-military ground leaders.
on Dec 14, 2005
Watch the general army shrink into more support operations.


See also "Separate Brigade Combat Teams." Bye, bye, Divisional deployments.
on Dec 14, 2005
I find it difficult (but not impossible) to believe that a recruiter would tell your brother "that it doesn't matter what my parents think, my brother can do what he wants, and that he should gain my dad's signature at any cost" in front of his mother. It doesn't matter what she thinks?


Actually, my mom supports my brother. She doesn't mind him joining, (I think she just wants him out of the house) it's mainly my dad that is the huge roadblock for my brother joining while he's 17.

Hmmm, good to know, SSG Geezer, last I knew you had to be at least an E4 to volunteer. Things change I guess... I also remember when you had to be an E5 AND Airborne qualified before the SF recruiters woud even talk to you.


Wow, that's like another language there...

on Dec 14, 2005
They need SF because of the money corporations like Blackwater are offering to highly qualified SF guys, 200K plus for doing executive protection and things like that in the war zone. Hard for the Army to compete with that.
on Dec 14, 2005
SSG... I don't believe the expansion of SF teams relates to organizations like Blackwater. The reason demand for Blackwater and others like them grows is they provide cost effective added value and more importantly a wide range of sophisticated skills that exceed the average SF team members. Par-military organizations are often made up of x-Airborne & SF guys that later signed up for the Seals or left for CIA, FBI, DEA and SS training, gaining a folder of skills making them highly valued as ground assets, worth considerably higher comp pkgs and true professionals.

It's true SF teams are highly skilled low level ground specific, but 99% lack the added skills needed for protection of dignitary's in highly volatile states and or combat zones.
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