Ambition is the last refuge of failure.

Imagine one day you were to come across a young man digging a hole in the earth with a shovel.  An inquiry into his actions leads to the conclusion that he is digging his grave.  Likely you would find this intriguing, and would attempt to draw more information from the man.  Suppose the man explained that he wanted the best grave he could create throughout the years of his existence.  The man is literally spending his life preparing the resting place for his dead body.

Would you find this ridiculous?

Yet, throughout human existance, like the man digging his own grave, we have spent our lives preparing for our death.  Many find it necessary to believe in an afterlife, and are willing to sacrifice parts of their earthly lives in order to gain admittance.  Others spend their lives researching various religions, sciences, and beliefs, in order to find something regarding death that they can come to terms with.

At the very root of it, everything in our existence has grown out of our obsession of death.  Humans fear death so much that we have created religion, (a way to either accept death with the hope of some sort of better life,) and science, (a way of postponing death through medicine, or other forms of preservation.)

Why?

Why can't human's just accept that this may be the one and only life we have, and live it accordingly?  Yes, we are afraid of what happens after we die, afraid that there may be no purpose for our existence.  But why allow that fear to dictate the way we live the life that we know for certain we have at this moment?

Why can't we spend our lives simply enjoying being alive?

 

 


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on Jun 08, 2009

So being good, etc. for the sake of it, and just out of genuine desire to have a life like that and help others....doesn't make sense? You would have to have some incentive or God?

Nope. 

It's not about incentive.  It's about whom am I living for.  Myself?  God? 

If I'm living for myself than I'm motivated by self.  If I'm living for God, then I'm motivated by God.   It's like Paul said.... when we live for God we die to self.  To live for God means that I know I will be held accountable by him but more than that I know what he's done for me so I'm eternally grateful.  To show that gratefulness I do my best to love Him by loving my neighbor. 

God includes us in his plan if we so wish.  First we walk with God then we work for God and all we do should bring glory to Him, not ourselves. 

I'm much more willing to do things for God than I ever would be for myself.  If it wern't for Him, I doubt I would do much that wouldn't benefit myself. 

 

on Jun 09, 2009

All the "debate" on here comes from two groups of people...

Those that "know" there is an afterlife, and those that accept that this life may be all we have.

Coming from it from the perspective of those that "know" there is an afterlife, and that certain sacrifices must be made in this life in order to gain a desirable place in the afterlife (ie: heaven over hell), I completely understand why you live the way you do.  As KFC said, it brings you peace.

I understand the argument that this life is only fleeting compared to eternity, so this life is the preparation for said eternity.

Perhaps you are right.

BUT, what if you aren't, and this life is all that you have.

Sure, you can always say "better safe than sorry," but coming from the viewpoint that I am offering here, wouldn't spending your one life preparing for death be an absurdity?

Yes, it all comes down to personal beliefs.  KFC and Lula believe there is an afterlife, and that we should spend our lives preparing for it.

Do I believe there is an afterlife?  Absolutely. 

But still, the question "why do we spend our lives preparing for death?" can be thought provoking.

 

on Jun 09, 2009

I'm much more willing to do things for God than I ever would be for myself. If it wern't for Him, I doubt I would do much that wouldn't benefit myself.

It could be argued (endlessly, I am sure) that by doing things for God, you are doing them for yourself.  You want to be considered good/moral by God, and spend eternity in heaven, so you obey God.

 

on Jun 09, 2009

I'm much more willing to do things for God than I ever would be for myself. If it wern't for Him, I doubt I would do much that wouldn't benefit myself.

 

See, that's thing...I am, so to speak, without him, and I go out of my way to help others and be selfless. It just goes to show that people like me who do not believe in your God - can be good, moral, upright, caring, compassionate, etc.

(Sorry, that does sound a little arrogant/boisterous, not intending to be)

on Jun 09, 2009

It just goes to show that people like me who do not believe in your God - can be good, moral, upright, caring, compassionate, etc.

yes they can.  I'm not debating that.  I'm debating motivation.  Who do you do it for?  

Most people do for others because it makes them feel better.  Some do it out of guilt.  Some do it for monetary gain.  Some do it for attention.  Some do it only when the cameras are rolling. 

As a Christian I do it for the glory of God.  If I, on occasion, do it for one of the reasons listed above, scripture says that my works will be burned up.  At the end of time we will pass by the bema seat of Christ and our works will be judged (for crowns sake).  Those who do their works for the glory of God (not praise of men) is said to have built this on a foundation of gold and silver and the fire will not destroy these works.  But those who did their works built on hay, wood or stubble will find their works burned up.  They will make it into the kingdom of God as if scorched but they will have no works to follow them in.  As a Christian that will be an embarrasing moment. 

Sure, you can always say "better safe than sorry," but coming from the viewpoint that I am offering here, wouldn't spending your one life preparing for death be an absurdity?

Yes it would.  But it's not like we're just sitting here waiting for the afterlife to happen either.  We're going about our busy days and making decisions in the light of eternity. 

Yes, it all comes down to personal beliefs. KFC and Lula believe there is an afterlife, and that we should spend our lives preparing for it.

to some extent yes, but it's not like we don't live in this one either.  We shouldn't be so heavenly minded that we're no earthly good.  It's just that we don't want to be so earthyly minded that we're not heavenly good. 

Do I believe there is an afterlife? Absolutely.

I'm glad to hear that.   I didn't know you did.  I thought this was all about your not believing in the afterlife. 

But still, the question "why do we spend our lives preparing for death?" can be thought provoking.

It is very thought provoking.  And something we should think about.  Everyday we're dying more and more physically.  As a Christian everyday I'm living more and more spiritually.  I'm exchanging my physical life for the spiritual and it pays dividends even now.  There is no comparison. 

It could be argued (endlessly, I am sure) that by doing things for God, you are doing them for yourself. You want to be considered good/moral by God, and spend eternity in heaven, so you obey God.

In a way and from a human standpoint I can see what you're saying.  As a Christian we long to hear "well done good and faithful servant."  It's like a child who wants to honor his father so obedience comes easy because it flows from love.  Love is at the crux of the whole matter.  I do what I do because I love God.  He showed us by example what it was like to live a selfless life.  As a Christian we are to follow him in all his ways.  He's our example. 

 

on Jun 09, 2009

yes they can. I'm not debating that. I'm debating motivation. Who do you do it for?

I do it becuase it is right; there are others out there who are in need and I feel that it is the right thing to do.

 

 

 

on Jun 09, 2009

I'm glad to hear that. I didn't know you did. I thought this was all about your not believing in the afterlife.

If you can't argue against it, you shouldn't be arguing for it.  At least, that's how I view things.

It's not so much about me believing or not believing in the afterlife, so much as finding an amusing irony in the fact we spend our lives preparing for death.

on Jun 09, 2009

I do it becuase it is right; there are others out there who are in need and I feel that it is the right thing to do.

Ooooh indirect self-gratification. 

Who deems this "right"? 

on Jun 09, 2009



Ooooh indirect self-gratification. 

Who deems this "right"? 

Hmmm, yes and no; you've got me there. Satisfaction really isn't in play when I go out and help people; it is never about me, it is about them and their need and what can be done to help them.

As for who deems it right - me, but only in the sense that my helping them doesn't cause problems. As every action has its consequences, even the best intended person can cause horrible consequences.

You get what I mean?

on Jun 09, 2009

Satisfaction really isn't in play when I go out and help people; it is never about me, it is about them and their need and what can be done to help them.

Mm... you have compassion, and indulging in compassionate acts makes you feel good, and since it makes you feel good and it doesn't cause unneccesary harm, you deem such acts right.

Right?

on Jun 09, 2009

Mm... you have compassion, and indulging in compassionate acts makes you feel good, and since it makes you feel good and it doesn't cause unneccesary harm, you deem such acts right.

I wouldn't call it indulging; I actually just do it and really don't notice any sort of "feel good," emotion. I do it because someone needs help, and I have the measn. Granted, I don't know, maybe, just maybe there is deep, deep, deep down, but that isn't to say that it's being done for selfish interest or selfishness.

 

on Jun 09, 2009

I wouldn't call it indulging; I actually just do it and really don't notice any sort of "feel good," emotion. I do it because someone needs help, and I have the measn. Granted, I don't know, maybe, just maybe there is deep, deep, deep down, but that isn't to say that it's being done for selfish interest or selfishness.

Perhaps not a concious thought of "how will this help me," but an instinctual one?  I read somewhere that performing acts of selflessness actually physically benefits us, by bringing our stress levels down which helps our bodies.  It also helps our mental health (for example, contributing to society causes us to feel as though we have a purpose, which helps to combat depression.)

on Jun 09, 2009

Perhaps not a concious thought of "how will this help me," but an instinctual one? I read somewhere that performing acts of selflessness actually physically benefits us, by bringing our stress levels down which helps our bodies. It also helps our mental health (for example, contributing to society causes us to feel as though we have a purpose, which helps to combat depression.)

 

Mmm, maybe. I doubt it, but maybe. Granted, I'm not perfect, but I go out of my way to just help people, because they need the help. *shrugs* I guess if there is such thoughts subconcsiously or instinctually - then so be it.

 

on Jun 09, 2009

Hmm, interesting.

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