Ambition is the last refuge of failure.
I've Had It With Newdow
Published on January 14, 2005 By Silver_and_Jade_Tears In Current Events
Newdow is now trying to stop the prayer for the inaugeration.

I've had it with all these self-rightous Anti-theists.

You know what, you claim that we are pushing our Christian beliefs on you. Here's a little common sense... DON'T LISTEN, AND AVOID THE SITUATION!!

I don't agree with the act of prostitution, so I avoid that type of situation, I don't try to stop it, even though it is something that probably should be discontinued.

So, dear Anit-theist, get over yourself, and stop trying to push you beliefs, or lack thereof, on me!

Just don't say "Under God" when you say the pledge.
Don't listen to the inaugeral prayer, or better yet, don't go.
Don't go to a Christian church.
Don't read the 10 commandments in the courtroom.

YOU CAN AVOID IT, so stop trying to take it away from me!

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on Jan 14, 2005
But regardless of the terms, my feelings for these people have not changed.

I don't understand why people allow such small minorities control the rest of us in such a manner.
on Jan 14, 2005

That's the problem. Atheists don't feel they are pushing anything on anyone, when in reality it is exactly what they are doing. It offends my sense of moral righteousness and it will come down to a heated battle, in time. I refuse to allow myself to be walked on by anybody else.

Helix, S&JT said it correctly, and it has been blogged before.  Most Atheist dont care and dont ram their non-belief down anyone's throat. It is the Anti-Theist that are more rabid than even the evangelical right!  And they must be stopped.

on Jan 14, 2005
I am going to change a couple phrases in my blog


If you do that, then please delete all my comments, else you'll make me look like an idiot.
on Jan 14, 2005
I am not sure, but a friend of mine and I may have been partly responsible for coining the term. I can't claim absolute credit for it, but know I have been using it for many years. That may be why you haven't heard it used much (I'm not as widely read as, say, Grisham...lol)
on Jan 14, 2005

Have I EVER not respected your right? No. And I will continue to do so. But please don't disrespect me by painting me with a brush of an ugly color as you paint your version of "athesits." Maybe we're miscommunicating here. I call myself atheist. Maybe that's not what you would call me.

I see your dilemna.  But I think if we correctly call them Anti-Theist, that counts you out, and them as the loons!  I respect your right to not believe, and it does not bother me.  That you dont care if I beleive indicates you are not bothered by my belief either.

It is sad that often a broad brush is applied when a narrow one is what is called for.  It is similar to what I said in another blog, and you have followed through on.  You have repudiated them, and so there is a clear difference.  And that is to your credit.

on Jan 14, 2005
OK, now that kind of gets me annoyed because I would never have said a word to this post worded the way it is...I may go back and edit all my comments to silly little emoticons in a fit of angst.
on Jan 14, 2005

I believe it was Gideon (too lazy to look) who used the term anti-theist. This is far more accurate in this situation and I think makes a nice distinction between those Silver and Jade was ranting about in the initial post (which I agree with 100%) and those like xtine who quietly choose to believe (or not believe, it is really just semantics) there is no diety. Athiests, while I cannot understand that belief, I have not problem with. Anti-theists, however, are those on a crusade to strike any mention of a divine being from existence. I will continue to actively fight against them.

I do believe you are 100% correct! Insightful from me!

on Jan 14, 2005

(BobG, I like your level-headed comments and appreciate your thoughts...you should register. )

I told him that already!  He says he is having some problems.  But he does have some great comments, and hopefully will solve them soon.  I would like to see some of his thoughts in his own blogs!

on Jan 14, 2005

...sorry for inspiring the edit, xtine...hehe


Anyway, to the point. I never knew for sure you were an atheist, and never cared. To me it was (and is) irrelevant to who you are as a person. You have always been insightful, intelligent, and a valuable contributor to the JU community, and that knows no religious boundaries.

on Jan 14, 2005

If you do that, then please delete all my comments, else you'll make me look like an idiot.

No, your comments are in context, and are very insightful.  Dont be embarrased by them.  There is nothing wrong with them.  I read it after she changed it, but it was clear by the comments that you were addressing the prejudice against atheist, not anti-theists.

on Jan 14, 2005
Xtine, I deleted you comments, but then I read the later comments...maybe I shouldn't have...

on Jan 14, 2005

Xtine, I deleted you comments, but then I read the later comments...maybe I shouldn't have...

His wisdom is lost.  Perhaps he can post a comment now based upon the revised blog and his own views.  I would hope so.  He had some great ones.

on Jan 14, 2005
Perhaps he can post a comment now based upon the revised blog and his own views. I would hope so. He had some great ones.


My original intention wasn't for this to go into terms...but whatever.
on Jan 14, 2005
It is an entertaining irony. Many atheist activists tell us believers that:

~It shouldn't bother us if our kids are taught things with which we disagree, we have ever opportunity to teach them our oppinions at home...

~"What's the matter, don't you think your beliefs can stand up to open discussion?"

~"What, are you afraid that seeing that in public will make you or your kids want to do it too?"

Well, turnabout being fair play.....

~Atheist activists, if your child is exposed to things with which you disagree, you have every opportunity to teach them your opinions at home.

~Atheist activists, what's the matter, don't you think your beliefs can stand up to open discussion?

~Atheist Activist, are you afraid that seeing that in public will make you or your kids want to do it too?
on Jan 14, 2005
~Atheist activists, if your child is exposed to things with which you disagree, you have every opportunity to teach them your opinions at home.~Atheist activists, what's the matter, don't you think your beliefs can stand up to open discussion?~Atheist Activist, are you afraid that seeing that in public will make you or your kids want to do it too?


This is very true. You get an insightful from me. I assume there must be some sort of insecurity in these people that drives them to remove everything that makes them uncomfortable, or that they don't agree with.

If Newdow was heavily questioned I doubt he would be able to come up with much more than "because it's my right." Well, what about MY right?
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